thanks!
Not worth you money- Not waterproof, very stuffy. This pants will only work in cold dry weather. It's not really waterproof. it is quite warm, even without the liner. There is a polyester liner (non perforated) that is vet stuffy. The knee and hip protection is a joke; I throwed it away. Otherwise, build quality is good. I'm 1.77 m, 100kg wear the 3XL which fit greats. The pants are wide enough to fit a knee-gourd bellow (mine Leath's), and almost wide enough for a full length motocross boot (mine a Thor).